Comparative Tables[Last updated on
December 17, 2007] Trinity v. BeComingOne Table [Please print and paste together] |
Index GP1a Who is God? GP1b What is God's Name? GP1c Importance of God's Name GP1d Paradoxes on God GP1e Law of Contradiction GP1f Trinity v. Law of Contradiction GP1g Unchangeableness of God GP2 God the Father GP3 Word of God GP4 JC the Man GP5 JC the God GP10b Trinity v. God |
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| Three persons in One God He is numerically one, yet He is three individual "persons" "Since the Father is a person, and the Son a person, and the Holy Spirit a person, therefore there are three persons: since then the Father is God, and the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, why not three Gods? ... therefore it was lawful through the mere necessity of speaking and reasoning to say three persons, not because Scripture says it, but because Scripture does not contradict it: whereas, if we were to say three Gods, Scripture would contradict it, which says, Hear, O Israel, the Lord thy God is One God?" (Augustine, On the Trinity, bk 7, ch 4) |
Three persons
in a numerically One is against the Law of Contradiction; Trinitarians conveniently ignore the other meaning of one (unity) which is used to describe God in the Bible. They do not say there are three in the unity of One. Notice the quote by Augustine of Deut 6:4 is an incorrect one. It does not read, the Lord thy God is one God, but it does read in the Greek translation, the Lord thy God is one Lord, while more correctly in the original Hebrew it reads: "Hear Israel, YHWH our elohim (Gods) one YHWH" or "Hear O Israel, BeComingOne our God(s), BeComingOne (is) One." |
One
YHWH, One God, Who is / was / will be all in all God will be all and thus there will be none else but God; all things in God, in unity, in the system of love when all are in God. (All went out of God; all will come back into God so that God will be all in all. Yet even now in the age of evil God's Power oversees all since He has predestinated all that was / is / will be. See GP1) [Deut 4:35,39, 6:4; 1Kgs 8:60; Isa 45:6,18,21-22, 46:9; 1Cor 8:6, 15:28] |
The oneness of
God carries both meanings of one. 1. God is both one numerically and the only One [there is none else but God], 2. and God is one in the sense of unity, many in one: God all in all. Christ's Body, which will fill all, is many in One. (1Cor 12:12; Eph 1:23) When all go back into God, through the Body of Christ, then God will be all in all. This is why God told Moses that His Name is, "I Will-Be" or that His Name was "He (who) Will-Be." The true good God is the BeComingOne, the Power that will be all in all when all go into Christ. (1Cor 15:28; GP1) Yet now God has full control through his predestination power. The great power of God has allowed the whole creation to go out of God in order to learn the evil of evil, and thus be able to understand and appreciate the good of good. ("Reason Why" NM20) |
| Trinity God | BeComingOne | ||
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Comments | Qualities |
Comments |
| The Trinity is a "Mystery Beyond Comprehension of
Man" [Systematic Theology, L. Berkhof] [Trinity mystery not found in the Bible; taken from philosophy, and secular works.] |
Trinitarianism is against logic as they rightly admit, thus they call it a "mystery." | Not
a Mystery The nature of God can be explained; will be explained and is being explained by Christ through His Spirit. (Luke 10:21-22; Rom 16:25; Eph 1:9, 3:4, 5:32; Col 1:27, 2:2, 4:3) |
The Bible in its original languages clearly describes the Name of God [GP1b], God's becoming oneness, and God's nature. (God Papers, Part 1 to 6) |
| Trinity God | BeComingOne | ||
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Comments | Qualities |
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| Immutability of God (Unchangeable) "He is unchangeable, and declared this to be His own name to His servant Moses, when He says, "I am that I am." (Augustine, On the Trinity, bk 7, ch 5) "Because He [God] is incapable of change." (Augustine, On the Trinity, bk 5, ch 16) [Greek philosophers; church fathers; Exod 3:14, Greek text] |
"Beware
lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men...
(Col 2:8) The "I am that I am" quoted by Augustine does not prove that God is unchangeable, because first this was taken from a mistaken translation, and second, because "I am" in and of itself does not say God is unchangeable, but that he lives. For proof against the immutability theory see GP1g. |
He
(who) will-be (the Becoming-one) Some aspect of God is changing (His very Name indicates He is BeComing), but His power predestinated and controls all even now. |
God's
very Name indicates that He is becoming. [GP1b] God can change in some ways, but remains truthful and all powerful. (GP1g) |
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| Timeless Trinity is not limited by time: the Trinity transcends time "Because therefore the Word of God is One ... all things are simultaneously therein, potentially and unchangeably; not only those things which are now in this whole creation, but also those which have been and those which shall be. And therein they neither have been, nor shall be, but only are." (Augustine, On the Trinity, bk 4, ch 1) "For the order of times is in the eternal wisdom of God without time." (Augustine, On the Trinity, bk 2, chap 5) |
This myth is one
reason the Trinitarians cannot see that the Son of God did not always exist, but came into
existence when Jesus Christ was born of Mary and the Holy Spirit. They must deny scripture
in order to keep their Grecian theories alive. This Trinitarian idea of God's timelessness is based on Greek philosophy and an incorrect Greek version of Exod 3:14. The real Name of God identifies God, but the real Name of God has been corrupted and hidden by mankind and the "other-mind." In other words, God's Name has been taken in vain. (Exod 20:7) |
God's Name
and scripture clearly show that He Is becoming, yet was, and is [Exod 3:14; Rev 1:8 (Hebrew word and its real meaning)] |
Names in the Bible help to mark out and identify people. [GP1c] God's Name means: he who was, who is, and who is coming. [GP1b] It has everything to do with time, and is not timeless. You cannot understand the True God without time. |
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Comments | Qualities |
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| Flesh of Christ a body "taken" |
Did God steal or "take" a body or was the Messiah and Son of God born as the Seed? (see PP1) |
Flesh
of Christ Christ's flesh became God's own soul (Isa 42:1) and body, the very image of God, bodily. (Col 2:9) |
The
Jesus Christ who was born and died was the Messiah. He actually was born and died. We
don't have to change the meaning of words to manifest our God, but the Trinitarians do
have to change the meaning of words. Through Christ, God now has the eyes, nose, ears, arms, projected in the Old Testament. (Exod 33:11; Num 12:8; Deut 34:10 ff; Pss 11:4; GP3; etc.) The Trintarians call these scriptures on God's flesh and body as Anthromorphisms. But these Scriptures were pointing to Christ. |
| Trinity God | BeComingOne | ||
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Comments | Qualities |
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| Jesus
Christ's Pre-Existence Because, according to the Trinitarians view, the Trinity is timeless and changeless, then the Son must have always existed, even before he was born. In order words, Jesus Christ "Pre-Existed" before he was born. |
The Grecian views of the Trinitarians again prevent them from seeing Scriptures clearly. | Jesus Christ
did not pre-exist before he was born. The Spirit of Christ did; the man Jesus Christ, the Son, did not. |
After Christ became One with His Father's (YHWH) Spirit, Paul and anyone else could speak of the Old Testament's Spirit as Christ's Spirit (1Pet 1:11), since it was. But the flesh of Christ did not exist before he was born, only the Spirit. |
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| Not Pantheism Not all is God, yet God is everywhere. (Pss 139:7-12; Jer 23:24) Cannot be shown in scripture because of Isa 45:6,18,21-22, 46:9; 1Cor 15:28; Eph 1:23 [none else but YHWH, God; all will fulfill the Body of Christ; etc.] |
This is contrary to scripture and logic. God cannot be everywhere and yet not in someway or at some time everything. Remember what Paul told the Greeks? "For in him [God] we live, and move, and have our being." (Acts 17:28) Be careful, I am not saying that now all are in our God. For we know that now all are not under God or in God. (1Cor 15:28; Heb 2:8) | God will be
all in all: thus is not now all in all. Yet God's power controls all since he predestinated all to happen, including the good and the bad. GP1 |
God in some manner existed before the creation; God sent all out of Him; God will bring all back into Himself. When all are back in God then there will be one God, with many new creatures in Him. See God Papers |
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| All Things | All things are out of
God; all things will go back into God through Jesus Christ. (2Cor 5:18-19) God who was all things before the creation, and who
is (is life and upholds the present creation, who predestinated everything in the
present age), and who will be all in all (1Cor 15:28; Rev 1:4,8) is the only true God. Christ will bring back all to the Father through Himself (Phil 2:10-11; Col 1:19-20), for all must go into Christ. (Pss 110:1; Isa 45:23; John 12:32, 14:6, 17:21,23; Rom 11:26; 1Cor 15:24-28; Eph 1:10,20-23; Phil 2:10, 3:21; Col 1:20; 1Tim 2:3-4; 2Pet 3:9; see GP6) All things are not yet under or in Christ (Heb 2:8) but in the future all will be in Christ (and thus back into the Father [1Cor 15:28]) so that the saying becomes true: "There is none apart from me. I am the BeComingOne [YHWH] and there is none else." (Isa 45:6) Thus Christ's words have a new meaning. (read and understand, Mark 12:29-31) |
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| Timeless | The so-called
"timelessness" of God is a Grecian theory about God's nature, but God says in
Exod 3:14, "I will be" (YHWH), not "I am". His Name pointed to the becoming-oneness of God, for the All Powerful One is he who is, who was, and [who is] the one coming, the Almighty. (Rev 1:4,8). God used an imperfect Hebrew verb for His Name, not a Hebrew perfect verb or a Hebrew noun, not a Greek verb or noun, not a Latin word or an English word. "The [Hebrew] imperfect denotes, on the other hand, the beginning, the unfinished, and the continuing..." (Gesenius Hebrew Grammar, § 47.1, note 1) See Part 1 of the God Papers for more detail on God's real Name. "Of Whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named." (Eph 3:15) |
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| Time element | Power of God existed
before the foundation of the cosmos and will exist always. (Rom 1:20; Eph 1:4; 1Pet 1:20); See God Papers for full details. |
Since our God is Holy, since God
is spirit, then the Holy Spirit is God. Since our God existed from the beginning, since God is Spirit, then the Holy Spirit existed from the beginning. |
In the beginning God was the Word, the very angel (messenger) or Spirit of the Lord with the Name (YHWH) of God in Him. (Exod 23:20-21; John 1:1; See GP3) | The Seed was predestinated
before the beginning to be born, to die for our sins, and to be resurrected (John 17:24; Acts 2:23; 1Pet 1:19-20; GP4
& PP1). "But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law." (Rom 1:3; Gal 4:4) Thus, at the appointed time, "God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power ... for the God was with him." (Acts |
At the appointed time the Word
was made flesh. (John 1:14) Christ is the beginning of the New Creation (Gen 2:24; Mark 10:6-8; Luke 24:39; 2Cor 5:17; Col 1:15,18; Rev 3:14).
In this new union Christ is the first born from the dead (Rev 1:5) "he that
lives, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive into the ages of ages"
(Rev 1:18) "I overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." (Rev 3:21) YHWH means, "He who will-be" -- the BeComingOne |
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Before Christ's resurrection and his going to the Father, Jesus said that God is spirit (John 4:24) -- The Spirit of God (1Cor 3:16). | Spirit is spirit; the good spirit of God and Holy Spirit are the same (cf 1Cor 3:16 w/ 6:19; Eph 2:18,22) | Spirit of Christ is same Holy Spirit and Spirit of God of the Old and New Testament Scriptures. (cf. Num 12:6; 2Sam 23:2; Heb 1:1; 1Pet 1:11; 2Pet 1:21) The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ is the same One Spirit. (John 17:21; Rom 8:9; 1Cor 6:17, 12:3,13; Eph 2:18, 4:4; Phil 1:27) | Spirit in him given by the Father (Luke 11:13) "God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power ... for the God was with him." (Acts 10:38) | "Spirit said ..." (Acts 10:19; Rev 2:7,11, 22:17) |
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| Messiah The Christ The Anointed |
Remember God is Spirit (John 4:24), so there is no sense for good Spirit to be anointed with good Spirit. The "oil" of the Holy Spirit is what the fleshly Messiah (The promised Seed) was anointed with. (Acts 10:38) | There is no sense for good Spirit to be anointed with good Spirit. The "oil" of the Holy Spirit is what the fleshly Messiah (the promised Seed) was anointed with. (Acts 10:38) | There is no sense for good Spirit to be anointed with good Spirit. The Holy Spirit is what the fleshly Messiah (the promised Seed) was anointed with. (Acts 10:38) | The Messiah came in the flesh (1Tim 2:5; 1John 4:3), born of a woman and the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:30-31,35; Gal 4:4), and he is The One Anointed (Isa 61:1; Dan 9:25; Acts 4:27, 10:38 w/ Pss 45:7; Luke 4:17-21) | As One both can now be called the anointed One. |
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| God | Deut 10:17; Isa 63:16; 1Cor 8:6 | Spirit of God; God is Spirit (Acts 5:3-4) | The Spirit of Christ was the same Spirit of God of the O.T. | Came from the Father (God); goes to the Father. When he was flesh, the Father (God) was greater than him | God and flesh now are one. (John 20:28; Heb 1:8) The beginning of the new creation (2Cor 5:17; Gal 6:15; Col 1:18; Rev 3:14, 21:5) |
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| Father | 1Cor 8:6: Isa 64:8 | Mat 1:18; Luke 1:35; John 3:3-6; Titus 3:5 | Was the same spirit as the Father. (Isa 9:6; John 10:30,38; See GP2, GP3 & GP4) | Had the Father inside of him doing the works; the Son was the manifestation of the Father. (John 14:9-10) | Father and creator of all the new creation (Isa 9:6; Rev 21:5) |
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| Creator | Isa 43:15, 44:24, 64:8 | Gen 1:2; Job 26:13, 33:4 | Same Word of God that created. (John 1:3; Col 1:15-17) | Fleshly Christ with God inside of him ["Immanuel" Isa 7:14; Mat 1:23] created life: rose Lazarus from the dead. | The Spirit of God continues and will create all things new with Christ. (Col 1:15-17; Rev 21:5) |
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| YHWH ("He will be" -- the "BeComingOne") | Isa 43:15, 64:8; Confirm by comparing Num 14:11; Deut 32:12; Isa 63:10-16 | Confirm by comparing Num 14:11; Deut 32:12; Isa 63:10-16 | Spirit/Angel with the Name (Exod 23:20-23; GP3) | Came in the Name of his Father. (John 5:43) | Christ's new Name. (Rev 1:4,8, 3:12; Compare Isa 40:3 with Isa 8:13-14; Mat 3:3 with Zech 12:10; 1Pet 2:7-8 with Isa 45:23; John 19:37 with Rom 14:10-11; etc.) "Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named." (Eph 3:15) |
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| Word | "God said" (Gen 1:3,6,9) | "Spirit said" (Luke 12:12; Acts 4:31, 10:19; Rev 2:7,11) Holy Spirit spoke in the Old Testament and New. (2Sam 23:2; Acts 4:31; 2Pet 1:21) | "In the beginning was the Word..." (John 1:1) | Spoke the words of the Father. (John 12:49, 14:24) | Word of God (Rev 19:13) |
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| One | One YHWH (Deut 6:4 | One Spirit (Eph 2:18, 4:3-4) | One Lord. (Eph 4:5) | Mediator not one (1Tim 2:4) |
One God, One Lord, One Spirit, One Body of Christ. (1Cor 12:12 ff.; Rom 12:4-5; 1Cor 10:17; Eph 4:4-6 ) All will be in the New Creation in the Name of God (BeComingOne) so that there is none else but the true God. (Isa 45:6) |
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| Many in One | "Let us
create"; "makers"; "gods are YHWH,
one YHWH" (GP1) |
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